200704161330 FDLP-DLC ELECTRONIC SERVICES
Unofficial Transcript of unofficial audio session provided by James Staub. Non-anonymous corrections are welcome. 200704161330 FDLP-DLC ELECTRONIC SERVICES HANDOUTS Information brief : The new federal depository library directory Information brief : The new federal depository library directory #2 : administrative module FDLP Desktop 2.0 Browse topics beta 2.0 1338 LINDA RESSLER FDLP directory 1339 slide phased approach contractor has a deadline – we hope to release new functions by the end of the summer 1340-ish slide new features admin module is available with password authentication – libraries can directly change their own profiles new fields: catalog url, partner library, notes fields (“The library is currently on fireâ€) 1344 slide screenshot login 1344 slide screenshot directory password retrieval 1344 slide screenshot directory input form 1345 slide screenshot library profile 1345 slide screenshot library profile editing 1346 slide screenshot library profile editing bottom 1346 slide screenshot change contact screen 1347 slide help 1347 slide screenshot map / bottom 1348 slide screenshot directory search results 1349 slide screenshot public profile view 1349 slide steps to implementation includes OPAL training session 1351 slide questions QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL 1351 GS – we currently pull data from the fbb – will there be an API for pulling the directory from CGP? LR – there will be an export feature in the fully implemented directory GS – what about real-time access? LR – I'll get back to you 1352 ?? from ?? - can we get alerts of updates? LR – there will be an internal alert service, and we'll 1353 ?? San Antonio, can we put links in the notes field? LR – I'll check ?? relabel “notes†“public notes†1354 KS – creating a lot of databases – will they link to each other so info does not have to be changed in 12 places? LR – I can only speak to the CGP ones [i.e., no] 1356 KAREN SEGAR Browse topics [web site on screen] 15 categories 1400 will track stats to determine most used resources Kathy Amen was the beta tester – thanks! MOU has been submitted to GPO by OSU, and this will determine implementation timeline ? how long does it take to become a contributor? KaS please contact Barbara or Suzanne Julie Linden, Yale U – Will GPO catalog each topic? KaS I'll confer with Lori afterwards JL – some kind of metadata would increase visibility Valerie Glenn – I was playing around with the site KaS the system is beta – we have placeholder topics right now... 1407 FDLP DESKTOP screen on site 1409 navigation – now have pulldown menus pointing to the various “buckets†1413 [follows link to FDLP promotional graphics] 1413 [back to Desktop] 1415 [go to calendar] 1416 searching the desktop 1418 [return to Desktop] profile allows needs and offers tool through the site profile 1420 dead air 1421 more on profiles 1422 needs and offers 1424 my links 1426 registration will be through these tools, and should be much more reliable 1428 privileges 1428 moderated chats QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL 1430 ST souther Illinois – will the public be able to see a Needs and Offers list? KaS right now it's not, but we could ST explains 1431 TB lot of acronyms – can you unpack them for the new folks? KaS – will do QUESTIONS Amy West – Needs and Offers – is there a batch capability? KaS we can look into ingest 1433 AM can you search the needs and offers? KaS they are available in site search. There is a restricted search to N&O, too. 1434 ?? [she didn't say her name earlier, either] item amendment... too slow, too painful. KaS please fill out the evaluation form and mention the functionality you need Saron Partridge, Jefferson Co Public Library – can we link folks who offer an item with folks who need it? KaS we cannot do that now, but it's a great suggestion 1436 KaS we're getting a new domain 1437 PH linking the directory with the experts directory council has requested – I think he's asking how do you decide what's public and what's not 1438 AM seems like we're missing opportunities to link services. There need to be next steps to put everything in one place KaS we're trying to make the Desktop that place for the FDLP community. Browse topics and the Desktop are running on the same program, and might be integrated 1440 Barbie Selbie – which platform is that? KaS – basically, MySQL and PHP – tools well documented 1441 BS Anouncements 1442 adjourn Continue reading
200704161030 FDLP-DLC FDSYS UPDATE
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Non-anonymous corrections are welcome. 200704161030 FDLP-DLC FDSYS UPDATE 1035 MIKE WASH One year since the contract for Master integrator was awarded to the Harris group 630 – 1300 on recording – check for quality – I was taxing the hard drive at this point trying to create disk space 1046 we are 2/3 of the way through planned spending on FDSys 1049 release 2 will contain preservation function 1050 slide FDSys program status detailed testing will happen next month the little itty bitty fdsys 1052 CARY GIBB slide fdsys communications updae 1053 slide fdsys communications update 1053 slide fdsys communications update – another starting conferences contact us at pmo@gpo.gov 1054 slide fdsys communications update – beta testing for 1B 1055 MATT LANGRAFF slide Release 1B Interview 1056 slide content submission 1057 slide release 1b content submission 1058 slide release 1c content submission 1059 slide screenshot 1102 slide screenshot of print order form 1102 another slide screenshot of print order form 1102 slide screenshot 1103 slide screenshot upload file 1103 slide screenshot publication tab – metadata input 1103 KATE SWORD slide metadata and content packages 1105 slide what is a package? Warwick framework used to ensure metadata connection to the digital object 1106 information package life cycle 1107 slide METS: data about metadata 1108 slide content metadata 1109 slide [diagram] 1110 slide descriptive metadata 1110 slide administrative metadata 1111 slide a layered approach 1113 LISA LAPLANTE 1114 slide access and delivery 1115 slide release 1b access and delivery 1116 slide release 1c access and delivery 1118 slide screenshot fdsys search results, and another 1120 slide screenshot of fdsys search results, sorted 1121 slide screenshot of fdsys search results, “navigators†and filtering 1122 slide screenshot fdsys content detail 1124 slide questions and answers slide staff antique photo QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL 1125 PH – being able to find what you're looking for within the system.Suggest that GOP collect feedbak on what's not working 1125 PH – suggests GPO work heavily on marketing 1126 PH – suggests training for users with such a complex interface will be very helpful LL – GPO is looking into synonyms/aliases to help search results Celine Delucky – number of plans in the works for training 1128 PH – will there be an ability for users to mine their own searches [?] ? LL - 1129 KS – how much work did you do with the Web harvesting pilot? ML – I was program manager for the Web harvesting pilot, and looking toward integrating tools in the FDSys in release 2. QUESTIONS FROM AUDIENCE 1131 Barbie Selby, UVA – RD mentioned handles vs. PURLs. What's that mean for OpenURL? Gil Baldwin, GPO – OpenURL is a more ganualr application than we were aiming for, but we believe that handles will support OpenURL 1133 Kim ? U Maryland – how does FDSys ingest geodata? What standards are being used? Kate Sword – release 1b doesn't include geodata LL – partnerships – we will need to work with the community to determine the best way to handle geodata 1134 AM – suggests GPO contact XXXX for help with geodata in libraryland 1135 Cathy Amon, from ? What's the relationship between CGP and FDSys? Kate Sword – when FDSys is released, you can search for content in both systems. We hope to integrate the two into one single interface for access 1136 XX, Clairemont College – we are evaluating what we want to do with our depository collection... where do libraries come into this? Will my administrators be asking why we need a depository library at all? Suggests to councl they develop an answer, suggestions BS the community continues to wrestle with this question 1138 RD the FDSys provides access files, but libraries might also provide access copies and participate in digital deposit 1140 GS – librarians have a place in the FDSys as experts – a library link on the page 1140 MAB, AALL – Agencies fulfill their GPO obligations at varying levels. What success have you had with outreach? MW – we have been somewhat successful with outreach, and we need to do more. We need to continue to prove that there are technical solutions to authentication problems. We have worked closely with OMB – they are looking to see agencies interoperate and communicate. Dick Burke, system architect at OMB, is very interested in FDSys – he's been citing our work as a best practice, which is exciting to us. 1144 AM I want crawling to be robust in the system – agencies want the easiest route possible. If we continue to ask for filled out forms, etc etc, then we will continue to have fugitive documents. MW – we are working with agencies to make things as easy as possible for the content providers. We have and continue to spend time telling folks how hard it is for our work to work in a world of self-publishing ML – met with users to go over user interface, and will continue. We don't want to create a system that makes more work. AM – GPO needs to be like a butler – everything gets done, but you hardly notice that he's there. Celine DeLucky – we have been talking to many information gateway folks – webmasters, etc. 1150 Marsha Marster? Where? - I see really important environmental documents – they need to be in the mainstream of FDSys RA we are in a transitional stage. NM digital archive project – we quickly moved from state documents to fugitive documents related to New Mexico. We librarians could play roles as interpreters. We should focus on regional and state-level information. 1153 PH A lot of the most powerful computers in the world integrate information from multiple sources and allow people to find the information they're looking for. I see FDSys evolving into... libraries would be feeding authenticated information into the system 1155 Steve Woods, Penn State – suggests GPO harvest extant metadata – we have cataloged websites – use our metadata. Question: of the 200K harvested docs, how many have metadata? Also, work to ingest numeric data sets. ML – session tomorrow on harvesting – please attend! 1157 adjourn Continue reading
200704160830 FDLP-DLC GPO UPDATE
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Non-anonymous corrections are welcome. 200704160830 FDLP-DLC GPO UPDATE ANNOUNCEMENTS wifi code is on the bulletin board reception at Colorado history museum tonight 0837 Bill Turry introduction 0838 Bill Turry begins 0840 named Ric Davis as acting superintendent of documents 0840 I fully support the partership of GPO with the FDLP libraries 0841 GPO annual report for 2006 secure intelligent documents, and other list items leading toward fulfilling the 21st century vision 0843 finances : eliminating positions and rerouting the money 0843 changes in party control of Congress most GPO oversight positions are filled by women for the first time in history 0846 funding at essentially flat levels 0847 we need the support of the library community to make needed requests Congressional printing 109.5M up from 70M to cover shortfalls under the current continuing resolution 33M -> 45M for staffing 33M is for depository program 12.5M up, 40% of this 7.4M for new projects 10.5M to support FDSys, which will be ready to go public this year. Releases 2 and 3 coming up. 0851 legacy digitization 0851 building move is not supported by the Congressional Budget Office, who scored the project at $320M cost. We will ask the JCP for advice when they get seated. 0853 passports. Public demand for passports is very high. Annual production rates at GPO may rise to 20M passports per year – rapidly becoming one of GPO's biggest products. 0854 productivity measures training partnerships collaboration and outreach 0855 authentication 0856 Title 44 should be updated, but we need to wait for the new JCP 0857 RIC DAVIS more than 200 registrants for the conference – but lots back at home. Take this information back to them. FDLP Desktop will be updated with proceedings, and podcasts will be made available 0859 GPO's commitment to no-fee access 0859 the theme of this conference is partnerships 0900 0901 GPO has procured OPAL – CGP training is archived and available. [dealing with harddrive problems] civil rights collection is being digitized. WW2 collection, too. 0904 public and private laws beta test, including authentication 0905 harvesting – first pilot is complete 0906 digitization 0907 OPAC live for just over a year z39.50 implementation by new automation librarian 0908 FDLP Desktop redesign 0909 PURLs – moving to handles, identified as the permanent locator of choice for FDSys 0909 AskGPO – working on redesign of the backend and workflows, and more training, and I am confident you will see an improvement in service. I believe that accountability in resolving your questions is the most important thing that we do. Contact me directly if you have an unresolved question 0911 assessment 0911 metrics – since december, outcome measures have been posted monthly to the FDLP Desktop. Help us by telling us which metrics you need. 0912 New content for library users NTIS pilot – DARTS – 250 depositories are signed up already PACER – approval might come this fall, and GPO is working on implementation method 0914 housekeeping Fall DLC : Doubletree hotel in Arlington, Oct 14-17 Depository of the year nominations are being accepted All depository libraries should have at least one staff subscribed to GPO-FDLP-L Thanks to GPO staff 0917 JAMES MALDEN, standing in for Robin Digitization of legacy collection 0919 online education with OPAL 0920 fall dlc 0921 spring 2008 dlc location and dates will be announced soon 0921 interagency seminar the week of July 30 0922 requests for GPO speakers 0923 depository distribution. The claims backlog has been down for the past three months GPO has had problems with its address file 0924 0925 public access assessments 0926 communications – administrative notes, FDLP-L, and perhaps postcards 0926 nominations for Depository Library of the Year are being accepted now 0929 TED PRIEBBY 0932 focus on eliminating lag time for updating fdlp desktop 0932 replacing WAIS 0935 partnerships 0937 new federal depository handbook. Monday May 7 is the deadline for comments on the 5 chapters released earlier this month 0938 metrics 0940 LORI HALL [still dealing with drive problems... she's mostly talking about CGP improvements] PURL cleanup product tests FDLP Library Directory – new product – available through CGP. We need your help cleaning up the data, adding additional data for new fields. 0950 cataloging and acquisitions Cataloging staff has been helping with other projects, hence the low numbers Jeff Rowbinski is new acquisitions manager 0952 lost docs 0953 some output statistics... 0955 little projects brief bibs – acquisitions records added early in the process and devloped over time 0956 Serial Set information in CGP – individual reports have 440 serrial statement 0957 5K+ active serials – working on checking these in to the CGP 0958 DTIC's automated metadata extraction – GPO has draft MOU with DTIC to investigate 0959 oursourcing historic shelf list – 1M cards dating back to 1880. GPO will reissue the job 1001 QUESTION GW timeline on implementation of WAIS replacement? TB current configuration is 20-some servers, and problems largely come out of their indexing problems. We will be consolidating these to 4 servers. RD we're bandaiding WAIS, but looking forward to new search and retreival services through FDSys. Continue reading
20070415 FDLP-DLC Council and Keynote
Unofficial Transcript of unofficial audio session provided by James Staub. Non-anonymous corrections are welcome. 20070415 FDLP-DLC Council and Keynote 1533 dedication to Ridley 1535 council intro r a k s AM Ann Miller EF DD TB BS ST WW DS MS GS PH Peter Hemphill LS has resigned MP is absent 1537 Council Aerobics 1st time: 10-ish since before 1990: 20-ish former council: 10-ish regionals: 15-ish public: 5-ish state law academic finances GPO 15-ish 1541 packet includes registrant list, schedules, etc 1546 Council is working on recommendations to GPO for Vision for 21st century. Theme of partnership 1548 Peter R Young, Director, National Agricultural Library introduction 1551 Peter Young begins 1554 Peter Young begins, again 1556 slide: what is the role of the FDLP system in an age of digital networks? Funny insurance claims 1600 what would be the consequences of the FDLP going out of existence slide how could we restructure partnerships to meet 21st century needs what roles do gpo and fdlp perform when federal information is accessible directly from the agencies what elements have made federal partnerships work in the past 1601 knowledge will forever govern contains 0 specific initiatives – we are here to work on forging these 1603 slide elements of successful partnerships 1612 second joke – performance evaluations 1615 successful partnerships slide USDA creation in 1862 to distribute seeds and plants under Lincoln GPO Superintendent of Documents established in 1869 Both are partnerships between federal agency and local/state institutions 1619 slide common elements of partnerships: FDLP and Land Grants 1620 slide part 2, part 3 1623 slide forces of change on partnerships 1629 slide change forces – FDLP 1631 slide change forces – land grant university 1637 slide past vs. future 1637 slide balancing for successful partnerships 1638 slide Successful NAL Partnerships: A Twenty-first Century Perspective NAL partnerships: AgNIC AgSpace National Digital Library for Agricultural 1641 slide agnic UT focuses on pet health bee colony collapse – if bees aren't healthy, this is a crisis 1643 slide AgSoace – NAL's digital repository slide AgSpace 1644 slide National Digital Library of Agriculture 1645 slide NDLA 1646 slide FDLP & USDA/NAL 1648 slide Elements of Successful Partnerships How does the FDLP achieve the goals from the vision statement? 1649 slide FDLP: transforming a 19th century partnership suggests we de-anonymize ourselves – personalize ourselves in our service. Also suggests we decrease focus on description of FDLP materials. 1651 slide ... - new role – the interface to federal government information 1651 slide partnerships in a digital world... 1652 slide quote: evolve or die Thomas Friedman quote – America will need and want to get its groove back... 1653 QUESTIONS MS: PY second point – shared values and trust. Are there administrations or points in tim that are better at playing with academic institutions PY: libraries can fare well under both D and R administrations 1656 ANNOUNCEMENTS state library agency discussion forum Tuesday 5pm in Aspen room. *Tell Richard I cannot be there. Law librarians Continue reading
200704180830 FDLP-DLC DIGITIZATION
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Non-anonymous corrections are welcome. 200704180830 FDLP-DLC DIGITIZATION 0834 BS opens session 0836 TIM BYRNE slide GWLA... 0836 slide Technical reports – definition from DoD 0837 slide technical report production 0837 slide technical report production 2 0838 slide technical report production 3 0838 slide technical report production 4 space 0839 slide University of Arizona 0840 slide University of Arizona 2 0840 slide Greater Western Library Alliance 0841 slide GWLA strategic plan 0841 slide GWLA Proposal 0842 slide taskforce members 0843 slide charge to the taskforce 0844 slide taskfoce objectives 0845 slide [task chart] 0846 slide prototype collection 0847 slide prototype technology – streetprint software 0849 slide proposed structure – preservation, includes one set of print material 0850 slide proposed structure 2 - access 0850 slide proposed structure 3 - coordination [TB wanders away from the mic] 0851 slide implementation schedule 0851 slide digitization 0852 slide cost model summary 0853 slide prototype demonstration - http://digicoll.manoa.hawaii.edu/... 0853 slide the future of the project 0854 slide next collection to be digitized – AEC MDDC series 0855 slide TB contact info 0855 QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL RA – possibility for creating brief records – have you thought about what constitutes a brief record? Is there an evolving standard? TB we are using Dublin Core, and identified ten fields that would be used as standard. AEC material will be associated with OSTI records. 0857 CYNTHIA ETKIN 0857 slide DARTS: A NTIS/GPO PILOT PROJECT 0858 slide goals of the pilot project – provide access through depositories; compare bib records to identify fugitive publications. We discovered there was only a 58% overlap in a collection of 1200 technical reports from 2006. 0859 slide what is darts? - 240K reports, 1964-2000, full text 0901 slide beta testing 0902 slide screenshot catalog record 0902 slide about the pilot project – one library had to be removed from the pilot 0904 slide obligations of depositories – don't share your password, that's why the one library was removed from the pilot. Document delivery to your community is OK. Also, NTIS is OK with passing passwords to other service providers, e.g., branch libraries. 0906 slide frequently asked questions – we can use proxy authorization for primary clientele. 0910 slide summer special - $1 per title from 1999-2006 0911 slide questions/comments 0911 AM I can't pull up the URL. 0912 CE that's the right URL 0912 AM NTIS only says back to 1987, not 1964. CE are you using the login AM yes CE only finding 1987 forward AM yes TB earliset date I found is 1912 [off mic council whispering] TP Marsha X, UC Davis – can you articulate the exclusions? CE – 1964-2000, only items with online equivalents MX – what are they deliberately excluding due to revenue CE everything since 2000 MX what old stuff will we not find? CE things without online equivalents. DOE, NASA, DTIC are in there. We originally talked about them not being there. Fairly good coverage. 0916 TED PRIEBY on behalf of Robin Haun-Mohammed 0916 slide initial steps 0917 slide digital demonstration project 0918 slide digital demonstration project 2 – January 2007 0919 slide digital demonstration project 3 – suggestions put forth by the reviewers... 0921 slide other efforts 0923 slide current status 0923 slide general assumptions 1.digitization COUNCIL AGREES 2.GPO will coordinate... 0924 EF can we add “to standards and best practices� TP good TB something to hand to the vendors is very helpful 0925 3.GPO will employ preservation level standards... 0925 4. GPO will set up near free partnerships with a variety of sources... KS assumption 3 – have you considered having access standards – when that's good enough for now EF there is a role for that type of activity – I'm more comfortable if it has a tangible object behind it. KS Oh sure EF ... you're not going to get the kind of resistance you expected KS help a larger body to get digitized faster EF GPO discussed allowing partners to participate at the level they can TP EF these discussions also need to include cost and duplication of effort 0929 EF question on 4. Partners assume minimal cost – and this does not include the cost of digitization? What are the partners picking up in terms of cost? TP near free means partner is willing to digitize the legacy documents, and/or pay for postage. EF if they don't have digitization ability, to they mail to GPO or another partner? TB RD on the mic RD strategic vision states goal of complete digitization, and assumed GPO would do it all. GPO should seriously consider the role of partners in this process. There is still a critical role for GPO in ensuring standards are met. We need to scope “near-free†and what that means for GPO. We need validation from JCP on what role they want GPO to pursue 0932 RA look at developed models. CONSER assures a certain level of cataloging TP yes 0933 assumption 5 all converted content for the legacy... KS yeah, some day, 100 years from now 0934 assumption 6 access level... KS no comment 0934 assumption 7 as the legacy documents... 0935 MARK SANDLER joke 0938 back to the questions... 0938 slide quesiton 1 what is the appropriate role for GPO to pursue for digitization in terms of the hands-on... GS if GPO has a role in doing its own digitization, it's to look first at titles not likely to be digitized by the partners EF we covered this in Council's recommendation – GPO has a coordinating role, and a role in capturing congressional documents and other titles difficult for partners Beth Harper, U Wisconsin – train has left the station – UW Madison is involved in one. We take our copies and work with Google to have them digitized – these will not be official, authentic copies ... Mary Alice Baish, AALL – list of partners – include law library of congress – they digitized with google a collection of hearings that will be made freely available TP in no way do we want to exclude any potential partner. 0943 Barbie Selby, LofVA – perhaps authenticate already-scanned materials. I thought digitization was in part to make sure GPO had something to do. RD – BJ in vision document thought 500 or more GPO staff underemployed could be repurposed to digitization. That number is more like 150. ... BS – what information is done at GPO with the registry of digitization projects? RD – we would really like to see – expand that registry. It's not expanding as much as we hoped. KS – the registry is broken. KB emailed me that she's not sure when it will be fixed. GPO should link expert registry with this registry. MS – there is a very active discussion on the value of registries in the larger digital library community. AM – what are they discussing in terms of alternatives? MS – “wouldn't we be better off entering manifestations in OCLC?†BS – Registries are important for identifying partners. Libraries should look at it when their administrators say it's time to do this MS GS DLF has standards for recording digital projects in OCLC. Getting them out is always an issue. GS authentication and authentic copies, we were told, is the purview of GPO. I think we need to explore doing this out in the field 0951 question 2 what is the appropriate look for preservation of legacy digitized documents (i.e., yellowed paper color made white, depository library stamp removed)? AM ? MS faded ink on yellow paper – low contrast – if you scan bitonal, are you losing history, and the debate degenerates from here... RA what we need is the best possible accessibility – let's make sure they get the information they're looking for PH the important point – given disasters – capture the content MS - EF? EF I would agree – subject experts might want to weigh in on the historical context – where is the look and feel important MS foxing was talked about for instance EF ... 0954 question 3 are there particular format issues unique to Government publications where different methods of capture or representation... GS no. you will find similar things all over the place EF this question could argue for higher quality – access level scan might not cut it for the user KS yes, but I'm not sure it's GPO's role to do it, e.g., data tables. EF can you expand KS I expect readable, but I don't expect tables to be reformatted into numeric data. Steve Hayes, Notre Dame – we have microfiche that is great and you can't use the content easily. KS SH – standard has to be defined closely 0958 question 4 when access derivatives are available, should re-digitization... EF are we implying that there is MS EF MS EF MS yes EF ok MS ... EF for me there's an issue of authenticity that comes into play here AM there needs to be an assessment of the quality of the access-level scan BS I wouldn't want to discourage a partner from going back and doing a collection better. Are we supposed to read this as GPO doing stuff? TP this is specific to GPO... do we lower the priority... BS I wouldn't want to hinder... GS yes, unless other considerations warrant moving into another priority. We're looking globally where to put our priorities... 1002 question 5 How does the GPO's initiative fit with other... AM that's the question, isn't it? Seamlessly! I don't know how we're supposed to answer. MS should complement AM BS recommendation yesterday covers this 1003 question 6 To what extent does the diversity of our user community influence the ways content should be represented? PH access for the elderly should remain as simple as possible. [personal story about his parents] RA GS I look at this in terms of derivative products. You want to provide a lot of methods of access for different user groups. AM make sure this content can be delivered to users without high bandwidth, old browsers Barbie Selby – the official stuff has to be represented in the authenticated way RA back to question 5 – I'll be here for NLLD. In preparation, I hear need to advocate for NARA, LoC budgets. Who has convening authority for these agencies – to keep from duplicating effort. I want someone to assume that convening authority... DD – it might be NCLIS 1008 MS concludes 1009 adjourn Continue reading
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